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the reason jim demint isn't in the majority today is because of jim demint. but jim demint says he's okay with that. >> i'd rather have 30 republicans in the senate who believe in the principles of freedom than 60 who don't believe in anything. [ applause ] well, let -- let me make myself even clearer. i would rather have 30 marco rubios in the senate than 60 arlen specters. >> arlen specter you might remember got driven out of the senate in part by folks like demint. he went to the democratic party and became the 60th vote on obama care. so that worked out well for demint. but demint does rather this being in the minority thing so much that he wants to seven out the rest of his term in the minority. when you're a senator and you even begin talking to another employer about leaving the senate, you have to file this paper with the senate office of public records. they do that so before a big vote on, say, an energy bill that will make oil companies really rich, you can't go to a big oil company and say, hey, don't you think i'd make a good executive vice presi
the reason jim demint isn't in the majority today is because of jim demint. but jim demint says he's okay with that. >> i'd rather have 30 republicans in the senate who believe in the principles of freedom than 60 who don't believe in anything. [ applause ] well, let -- let me make myself even clearer. i would rather have 30 marco rubios in the senate than 60 arlen specters. >> arlen specter you might remember got driven out of the senate in part by folks like demint. he went to the...
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people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become to easy to capitulate. remember with the budget control act when democrats were screaming bloody murder and thought the president had capitulated? on the far right they thought john boehner and mitch mcconnell had capitulated and lost that negotiation. they want the party further and further to the right. what demint specializes in doing is finding candidates to primary other republicans and to try to push the party further and further to the outskirts. >> what the do you think of that? >> i think there's some truth to that. what is interesting to me is during the bush years, where were all these voices when all the spending was going on? >> he wasn't -- >> there's a certain level of disingenuousness there. you have to be careful in making these broad brush -- >> let me ask you a question. if you were back at your old job, rnc chair, you may be there again for all i know, how would you imp pir this thing? would you go to demint and his crowd moving to th
people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become to easy to capitulate. remember with the budget control act when democrats were screaming bloody murder and thought the president had capitulated? on the far right they thought john boehner and mitch mcconnell had capitulated and lost that negotiation. they want the party further and further to the right. what demint specializes in doing is finding candidates to primary other republicans and to try to push the...
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people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become too easy to change. remember they were screaming bloody murder, the democrats and thought the president had done that and they feel john boehner had lost that negotiations and want the party further and further to the right. what demint specializes is doing is trying to push the party further and further to the out-skirts. >> what do you think? >> i think there is some truth to that. what is interesting to me, during the bush years, where were these voices when the spending was going on. there's a certain level of disingenuous there. you have to be careful of making a broad brush. >> if you were back in your old job as rmy chair and may be back there again, what would you do? would you build a logger out there to fight the -- or say, the future of the republican party is dead center conservative. not fringe, not going over. >> we're a center right party much like the country. >> i don't agree with that. the country is center right. it just voted. it just
people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become too easy to change. remember they were screaming bloody murder, the democrats and thought the president had done that and they feel john boehner had lost that negotiations and want the party further and further to the right. what demint specializes is doing is trying to push the party further and further to the out-skirts. >> what do you think? >> i think there is some truth to that. what is...
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people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become to easy to capitulate. remember with the budget control act when democrats were screaming bloody murder and thought the president had capitulated? guess what? on the far right they thought john boehner and mitch mcconnell had capitulated and lost that negotiation. they want the party further and further to the right. what demint specializes in doing is finding candidates to primary other republicans and to try to push the party further and further to the outskirts. >> what do you think of that? >> i think there's some truth to that. what is interesting to me is that during the bush years, where were all these voices when all the spending was going on? >> he wasn't -- >> there's a certain level of disingenuousness there. you have to be careful in making these broad brush -- >> let me ask you a question. if you were back at your old job, rnc chair, you may be there again for all i know, how would you umpire this thing? would you go to demint and his crowd
people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become to easy to capitulate. remember with the budget control act when democrats were screaming bloody murder and thought the president had capitulated? guess what? on the far right they thought john boehner and mitch mcconnell had capitulated and lost that negotiation. they want the party further and further to the right. what demint specializes in doing is finding candidates to primary other republicans and to try...
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jim demint's seat. it says in part, quote, i want to make two things clear from the outset. number one, i will not take the appointment myself. number two, i will appoint a person who has the same philosophy of government jim demint and i share. there you go. just out this morning. maggie, i'll let you take that first. well, that is good news if you are tim scott, i assume. >> i assume. >> she mentioned jim demint in the statement and nikki haley aligning herself with the new ceo of the conservative movement. >> which she has to do. look, nikki haley now has something that we have described as goldman, right, without being a scandal. tim scott's name has been tossed around by conservatives, as we know. i have word from some people the ag as a place holder, where this ends up going is going to be extremely interesting. i think that demint is going to have some say in what ends up happening here. >> and what's intriguing here is there are so many interesting moving parts and you may care about this in a c
jim demint's seat. it says in part, quote, i want to make two things clear from the outset. number one, i will not take the appointment myself. number two, i will appoint a person who has the same philosophy of government jim demint and i share. there you go. just out this morning. maggie, i'll let you take that first. well, that is good news if you are tim scott, i assume. >> i assume. >> she mentioned jim demint in the statement and nikki haley aligning herself with the new ceo of...
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senator jim demint has met his waterloo. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> one republican senator said, i'm quoting him now, if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. think about that. >> jim demint is cutting and running. john boehner is in a box. grover norquist near oblivion. karl rove benched on fox news. and the real action of barack obama has sent the republican party into total disarray. >> that's what i'm talking about. >> congressman jim clyburn of south carolina and eugene robinson on the latest republican fiasco. >>> plus, congressman chris van hollen on john boehner's latest concession on the fiscal cliff. michael eric dyson and donna gentile-o'donnell on the political fallout. howard dean on chris christie's big decision on the obama care exchange. and apple's ceo breaks big news to nbc's brian williams. >> next year, we will do one of our existing mac lines in the united states. >> tonight, a story of economic patriotism in an era of bain capital with e.j. dionne. good to have you wit
senator jim demint has met his waterloo. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> one republican senator said, i'm quoting him now, if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. think about that. >> jim demint is cutting and running. john boehner is in a box. grover norquist near oblivion. karl rove benched on fox news. and the real action of barack obama has sent the republican party into total disarray. >> that's what i'm...
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frankly i think jim demint couldn't agree more. he said, i'm leaving the senate now but i'm not leaving the fight. i've decided to join the heritage foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas. chuck, to your point. kelly, i want to go to you. in the midst, and we'll talk about the fiscal cliff in a minute, about the midst of the fiscal cliff and who's doing what, this is a huge news story, dropped on capitol hill that seemed to take everybody by surprise. what's the reaction up there. >> reporter: the pieces that are less sprying look at the fact that republicans failed to reclaim majority, that always has an influence on how much power senators think they have if they're among the minority. jim demint said he would not seek another term. at some point there was a plan for him to forecast his future. the timing of doing it right now certainly caught people by surprise. but it also is a point where it tells you that he feels comfortable that the voice of objection on some thing
frankly i think jim demint couldn't agree more. he said, i'm leaving the senate now but i'm not leaving the fight. i've decided to join the heritage foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas. chuck, to your point. kelly, i want to go to you. in the midst, and we'll talk about the fiscal cliff in a minute, about the midst of the fiscal cliff and who's doing what, this is a huge news story, dropped on capitol hill that seemed to take...
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i like jim demint. i wish him well. >> reporter: now, wolf, remember jim demint is one of the most conservative senators who worked very, very hard to block many pieces of legislation that the democratic leader harry reid was trying to pass through the senate. and demint made a point of personally going to harry reid's office to tell him face-to-face that he decided to resign. i can tell you as an observer of the senate watching relationships deteriorate, this was surprising but a good surprise. >> leaving on a good note at least with the majority leader in the senate. dana, thanks very much. and i'm joined now by senator demint along with heritage foundation founding trustee, the current president, we see the outgoing president, ed feulner, thanks for coming in. we're going to talk a little about the state of the heritage foundation and the republican party. the senator's here, the newsmaker, you shocked all of us. why did you do this? >> wolf, after this last election it's apparent we need to do more
i like jim demint. i wish him well. >> reporter: now, wolf, remember jim demint is one of the most conservative senators who worked very, very hard to block many pieces of legislation that the democratic leader harry reid was trying to pass through the senate. and demint made a point of personally going to harry reid's office to tell him face-to-face that he decided to resign. i can tell you as an observer of the senate watching relationships deteriorate, this was surprising but a good...
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that's what jim demint has been trying to say. if you were back at your old job, rnc chair, you may be there again for all i know, how would you repair this thing? would you go to demint and his crowd moving to the outside to sort of build their sort of logger out there to fight the establishment or would you say, wait a minute, the future is dead center conservative. it's not fringy, it's not john birch, not going over -- >> i would remind them we're a center right party very much like the country -- >> i don't agree with that. >> the country is center right. >> they just voted for obama. >> center left. >> that's another show. we'll have that conversation. but the country is center right in large measure. >> we can't have another arithmetic system. >> this is not about the math. this is about the facts and the realities on the ground. >> the facts. the numbers. >> 51% of the people identify themselves as pro-life. that's center right. >> they don't support outlawing -- >> another show. >> they don't believe in outlawing abortion
that's what jim demint has been trying to say. if you were back at your old job, rnc chair, you may be there again for all i know, how would you repair this thing? would you go to demint and his crowd moving to the outside to sort of build their sort of logger out there to fight the establishment or would you say, wait a minute, the future is dead center conservative. it's not fringy, it's not john birch, not going over -- >> i would remind them we're a center right party very much like...
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jim demint has been a thorn in the side of republicans. so whoever he puts in there needs to roll-up their sleeves and get the job done. there are some statements floating around. we'll wait and see. >> a busy day. my power panel, thank you. appreciate it. >> thanks. >>> the united nations is putting up a serious front to warn syria not to use chemical weapons on their own people. what are the options on the table? [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. go ahead, mark your calendars. mmm i can still see you. it's the last day you can switch your medicare part d plan. we're ready, and we can't wait to switch. what i wanted was simple: the most value for my dollar. so, now that it's time, we're making the move to a plan that really works for us. [ male announcer ] make the swi
jim demint has been a thorn in the side of republicans. so whoever he puts in there needs to roll-up their sleeves and get the job done. there are some statements floating around. we'll wait and see. >> a busy day. my power panel, thank you. appreciate it. >> thanks. >>> the united nations is putting up a serious front to warn syria not to use chemical weapons on their own people. what are the options on the table? [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of...
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what do you think is going to be the influence now for jim demint going into the heritage foundation? >> i think he's been a singular failure when you look at the candidates that he's endorsed. they have all lost. >> well, that is not entirely true. he says marco rubio was the first one that supported me. >> he doesn't have a good win-loss percentage. beyond that, i think it's just another sign of the disarray of the republican party and the tea party movement. i think they don't know what they stand for or what to do. barack obama says his higher popularity, republicans are completely not unified. they don't know which way to go forward. i think they have soul searching to figure out what they want to stand for and in reality what they need to do is be more balanced and more inclusive and change their views on some things if they are going to be successful. >> do you think it's possible that he saw the writing on the wall, chip? the l.a. times calls senator demint's a sign of bad time for the tea party. allen west, joe walsh of illinois lost. the paper also points out that the house
what do you think is going to be the influence now for jim demint going into the heritage foundation? >> i think he's been a singular failure when you look at the candidates that he's endorsed. they have all lost. >> well, that is not entirely true. he says marco rubio was the first one that supported me. >> he doesn't have a good win-loss percentage. beyond that, i think it's just another sign of the disarray of the republican party and the tea party movement. i think they...
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and it makes perfect sense now that jim demint is leaving. so why not fill the vacancy for south carolina's funniest favorite son? now, you may scoff at the very idea, but so did some at the idea of an idea of senator al franken and california congressman sonny bono and i take it you remember our 40th president, ronnie wilson reagan. it's not that farfetched. mr. colbert's only real trouble, he'd have to stand to the right of jim demint. joining us now is ari melber, a correspondent for "the nation" and an msnbc contributor and professor michael eric dyson from georgetown university and an msnbc political analyst. ari, if i can begin with you. why not replace one comic actor with another. >> what i love what stephen colbert does, he reminds us of the many absurdityiies we matakr granted. >> well, colbert brings star power. a go p lobbyist telling roll call that demiemint will have t star power of ben affleck. is that right. is he now the ben affleck of the tea party? another insider said demint is the ceo of conservatism. >> it's hollywood fo
and it makes perfect sense now that jim demint is leaving. so why not fill the vacancy for south carolina's funniest favorite son? now, you may scoff at the very idea, but so did some at the idea of an idea of senator al franken and california congressman sonny bono and i take it you remember our 40th president, ronnie wilson reagan. it's not that farfetched. mr. colbert's only real trouble, he'd have to stand to the right of jim demint. joining us now is ari melber, a correspondent for...
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>> you have a couple of -- on jim demint tweeting @bpshow, get riddance to jim demint. a. tasia says nikki haley may appoint herself and steven colbert is from south carolina. there is an online movement to get him in that seat. >> society so is peter ogburn from south carolina. senator ogburn. >> if asked, i will serve. >> bill: senator ogburn. i love it. >> this is bill press show. [ music ] when the last card is played what will be remembered? explore the lives of the famous and infamous who changed our world forever. experience the drama, back to back to back. of all the hours in all their days, the ones you'll never forget are the final 24. don't miss the final 24 mini-marathon this sunday on current tv. save the best for last. [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet but they're gonna fall in love get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married they'll find some retirement people
>> you have a couple of -- on jim demint tweeting @bpshow, get riddance to jim demint. a. tasia says nikki haley may appoint herself and steven colbert is from south carolina. there is an online movement to get him in that seat. >> society so is peter ogburn from south carolina. senator ogburn. >> if asked, i will serve. >> bill: senator ogburn. i love it. >> this is bill press show. [ music ] when the last card is played what will be remembered? explore the lives...
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some other not so fun facts by jim demint. he is stood with todd akin after those legitimate rape comments. lead the opposition against obamacare. turns out that was his waterloo. he wants to strip all federal employees of collective bargaining rights. he threatened to single-handedly shut down the senate. remember that? >> sure. >> stephanie: used a failed terrorist plot to attack unions. he said the administration is intent on unionizing so union bosses will [ inaudible ] collective bargaining. he was willing -- is willing to cause, quote unquote serious obstructions in the economy. he was asked on fox news despite not raising the debt ceiling would cause serious problems, he said i'm willing to do that in order to get serious cuts to social security and medicare. bye-bye [ applause ] >> stephanie: senator lindsay graham. >> i met with jim demint this morning, and to say i was stunned is an understatement. he has always been a friend somebody i could count on. we have really enjoyed our time together. >> wait a minute go bac
some other not so fun facts by jim demint. he is stood with todd akin after those legitimate rape comments. lead the opposition against obamacare. turns out that was his waterloo. he wants to strip all federal employees of collective bargaining rights. he threatened to single-handedly shut down the senate. remember that? >> sure. >> stephanie: used a failed terrorist plot to attack unions. he said the administration is intent on unionizing so union bosses will [ inaudible ]...
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mitch mcconnell wouldn't publicly endorse boehner's plan, while jim demint says it would destroy jobs. at the same time, the kkr co-chairman and ceo henry kravis says uncertainty is the main reason why investing isn't happening right now. he says many companies are rushing to close deals before the end of the year, concerns about whether the capital gains tax will rise. he says the fiscal cliff shouldn't be a big issue, and if businessmen got into the room they could solve the problem much faster than congress. >>> adding his tuppence, he says they'll have to get used to it and the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons. >> we have structural influences that speak to the deleveraging, speak to aging demographics of the boomers, that speak to globalization and technology, all of which have been labor and job unfriendly. >> joining us with his views, the senior european economist at jeffries international. before we talk about europe, i'm just wondering if bill gross is right there, what kind of impact is that going to have for everybody else? >> well, in terms of the fiscal cliff, it is ha
mitch mcconnell wouldn't publicly endorse boehner's plan, while jim demint says it would destroy jobs. at the same time, the kkr co-chairman and ceo henry kravis says uncertainty is the main reason why investing isn't happening right now. he says many companies are rushing to close deals before the end of the year, concerns about whether the capital gains tax will rise. he says the fiscal cliff shouldn't be a big issue, and if businessmen got into the room they could solve the problem much...
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i like jim demint. i wish him well. >> keep in mind, demint is leaving with four years left in his senate term. earlier he had said he would retire in 2017 but gave no previous indication he might quit now. >>> as concerns are rising over activity at syria's chemical weapons site a new round of diplomacy today. hillary clinton meets with russia's foreign minister, a long-time friend of syria's. so what happens next? i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >>> when something brings you down, you got to get up. >> you okay, buddy? >> more than a month after superstorm sandy, a family living in a borrowed apartment is trying to put its life back together. >>> plus, back behind bars. john mcafee under arrest and get this. he's blogging from jail. >>> and could an online review of a business get you sued? a new case raises the question, just how far can you go when you sound off online? tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor s
i like jim demint. i wish him well. >> keep in mind, demint is leaving with four years left in his senate term. earlier he had said he would retire in 2017 but gave no previous indication he might quit now. >>> as concerns are rising over activity at syria's chemical weapons site a new round of diplomacy today. hillary clinton meets with russia's foreign minister, a long-time friend of syria's. so what happens next? i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >>> when something...
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but jim demint is a movement conservative. so moving to the heritage foundation he'll have to i think compete with the likes of grover norquist for the unelected leader of the republican party, because i think we'll hear from him and see a lot from him. i mean, you know, he may not have always picked candidates, thinking of murdoch and aiken, who won, but i would expect to see him continue to try to push the republican party, you know, as he did on the inside similarly from the outside using, you know, sort of the tools and the levers that the heritage foundation affords. i would just -- i would like to put in a plug for katon. i don't want to worry your chans so i'm going to resist giving my own endorsement, but you would be a wonderful addition inside republican party for voice of reason. >> look at that, katon dawson. take that the governor and see how much it helps you. >> karen just doomed my chances of winning because we don't agree on anything. i'm telling you, i put craig melvin's flame name in first th this morning. >
but jim demint is a movement conservative. so moving to the heritage foundation he'll have to i think compete with the likes of grover norquist for the unelected leader of the republican party, because i think we'll hear from him and see a lot from him. i mean, you know, he may not have always picked candidates, thinking of murdoch and aiken, who won, but i would expect to see him continue to try to push the republican party, you know, as he did on the inside similarly from the outside using,...
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let's solve this. >>> jim demint is quitting. who will replace demint falls to south carolina governor and friend of the show nikki haley. but who will she pick? you want somebody young, somebody conservative, somebody from south carolina, playboy somebody who had a super pac. wait a second. watch where you point that thing. it's powerful. [ male announcer ] when it comes to the financial obstacles military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male ann
let's solve this. >>> jim demint is quitting. who will replace demint falls to south carolina governor and friend of the show nikki haley. but who will she pick? you want somebody young, somebody conservative, somebody from south carolina, playboy somebody who had a super pac. wait a second. watch where you point that thing. it's powerful. [ male announcer ] when it comes to the financial obstacles military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different....
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jim demint spoke out against boehner's proposal to the president. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves, and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> very critical of john boehner. and demint's press release aimed squarely at john boehner. $800 billion tax hike will destroy jobs, allow washington to spend more. as you all know, john boehner put an $800 billion tax hike as a center of his proposal. so john boehner got rejected from the white house, which wants another $800 billion on top of that in tax hikes and then rejected by the right wing of his own party which wants absolutely no tax hikes at all. so unlike harry reid, i actually feel genuine sympathy for john boehner. so kudos, speaker, for showing deserters or dissenters who is boss. boehner stripped house members who opposed key committee assignments today. and earlier i spoke with one republican leader in the house who himself has been out of step with boehner in recent days. deputy whip congressman tom cole of oklahoma. he said the gop shou
jim demint spoke out against boehner's proposal to the president. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves, and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> very critical of john boehner. and demint's press release aimed squarely at john boehner. $800 billion tax hike will destroy jobs, allow washington to spend more. as you all know, john boehner put an $800 billion tax hike as a center of his...
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. >> let me -- i want to move you to the jim demint departure. i know i'm taking you out of your comfort zone as little bit. everybody feel free to chime in. what caught my attention was a column today by ross in "the new york times" who wrote this chapter, the demint chan ter, the tea party chapter, call it what you will, is probably a necessary stage for the american right. it's normal for defeated parties and movements to turn inward for a period of ideological retrenchment before new thinking takes hold. now, the reason demint is leaving is because time is up for the tea party. >> i don't think so. he got a dozen tea party-backed republicans elected to the senate that would not have been there were it not for him. it's also true that he supported some candidates thatdy did not win. you can bet mitch mcconnell was not unhappy he left. he feels he's not a majority leader because of demint is there. there's a lot of "ding dong the which is gone" sentiment. >> a lot of republicans up to mitch mcconnell the senate republican leader who believed th
. >> let me -- i want to move you to the jim demint departure. i know i'm taking you out of your comfort zone as little bit. everybody feel free to chime in. what caught my attention was a column today by ross in "the new york times" who wrote this chapter, the demint chan ter, the tea party chapter, call it what you will, is probably a necessary stage for the american right. it's normal for defeated parties and movements to turn inward for a period of ideological retrenchment...
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jim demint leaves the senate because he think he can do more work in terms of tea party activism from the outside in. so all of that pressure doesn't go away. >> that's why it will be interesting to see how paul ryan navigates this budget battle because he is the leader of economic conservatives right now. and what does he do? does he side with john boehner? because they are certainly going to have to make concessions on tax rates. and what does that mean for him? how does that box him in for 2016? >> tea party too? >> there are 30 republican governors. there is a huge base of competency building out there. and if the president's not careful, by 2014, five or six of those state capitals are going to look a lot more competent than washington, d.c. and so there's a real -- and these are people who are winning elections, broad-based coalitions. christie is an example. but although he didn't do all that well in this last round, rick perry is another example. rick perry is a smart guy. it's the second biggest state. he is eagerly awaiting californiansi] migrating to tex in large numbers, w
jim demint leaves the senate because he think he can do more work in terms of tea party activism from the outside in. so all of that pressure doesn't go away. >> that's why it will be interesting to see how paul ryan navigates this budget battle because he is the leader of economic conservatives right now. and what does he do? does he side with john boehner? because they are certainly going to have to make concessions on tax rates. and what does that mean for him? how does that box him in...
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jim demint obviously among them. do you think john boehner is the guy who's going to get this done? is he going to be able to lead your party to consensus? >> i don't know the answer to that question. what he's trying to do is to mitigate the damage that obama would do with these massive increases in rates. impasse is not an option. means everybody's taxes go up, but if the president has his way, taxes are going to go up on those very wealthy folks making over 200,000, but most are small businesses filing a subchapter s companies, about 88% of net small business income will be for these taxes when we're depending on them to create two-thirds of the new jobs. boehner's trying to mitigate that mess. i wish him luck. something's going to f to have to give. >> from everything i've heard is that we are realistically, there's two options for country. one, go over the cliff. the other, extend the bush tax cuts for the 98% of americans. everyone who makes under $200,000 a year if they're single. those seem to be the two choices. between those, which do you pick? >> but, if we do that and ra
jim demint obviously among them. do you think john boehner is the guy who's going to get this done? is he going to be able to lead your party to consensus? >> i don't know the answer to that question. what he's trying to do is to mitigate the damage that obama would do with these massive increases in rates. impasse is not an option. means everybody's taxes go up, but if the president has his way, taxes are going to go up on those very wealthy folks making over 200,000, but most are small...
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. >> coming up next on "andrea mitchell reports," jim demint is out. the tea party leader announces his departure from congress. what does it mean for the senate and the future of the republican party? chuck todd, gop senator leader john barrasso and more. congressman john larson on what role house democrats can play in the budget negotiations. and the latest on the showdown in syria and defense secretary leon panetta's warning for president assad with former ambassador nick burns. male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. [ tylenol bottle ] me too! and nasal congestion. [ tissue box ] he said nasal congestion. yeah...i heard him. [ female announcer ] tylenolÂ
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i want to just add, senator jim demint coming out forcefully against speaker boehner's plan, and house member jim jordan also coming out against the plan. is the gop splintering? is there a civil war? >> larry, i'm here on capitol hill and what a raucous day today was for conservatives. you never really hear about it, but there's a group on capitol hill called the republican steering committee. they're a private group of lawmakers that decide committee spots and they announced that four lawmakers, popular conservatives from the class of 2010 and beyond would lose their coveted committee spots in places like the financial service committee and the agriculture committee and even the budget committee because they're not voting with leadership. there is irking a lot of conservatives because they think boehner is trying to exert too much control as these fiscal cliff negotiations continue. >> let's see if i get this right. top of the daily crawler website, a good one. conservative groups launch campaigns to depose boehner from speakership. i think that's hardly going to happen, but the amer
i want to just add, senator jim demint coming out forcefully against speaker boehner's plan, and house member jim jordan also coming out against the plan. is the gop splintering? is there a civil war? >> larry, i'm here on capitol hill and what a raucous day today was for conservatives. you never really hear about it, but there's a group on capitol hill called the republican steering committee. they're a private group of lawmakers that decide committee spots and they announced that four...
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jim demint will resign from the senate! [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> caller: oh, for real? >> stephanie: yeah gee whiz. it looks like the tea party is in a little bit of disarray. i was going to do the dick army story -- >> he is leaving to lead the heritage foundation. >> stephanie: of course. i love this, inside the dick army freedom works -- [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: he left the tea party group with a top lieutenant and others believed he was using the organization to pad his own pockets. army received an $8 million buyout. >> yeah, they are just a grassroots effort. >> stephanie: the ap report told "politico" if he left before the election, what they would report is the whole tea party movement is in a state of disarray. >> and now they are $8 million poorer. >> stephanie: wow. this is getting funner and funner. and meanwhile -- [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: the future of the gop, the main stream establishment, the rubios -- you know, he is the future -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: right. he is seen as the future of the republica
jim demint will resign from the senate! [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> caller: oh, for real? >> stephanie: yeah gee whiz. it looks like the tea party is in a little bit of disarray. i was going to do the dick army story -- >> he is leaving to lead the heritage foundation. >> stephanie: of course. i love this, inside the dick army freedom works -- [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: he left the tea party group with a top...
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the compromise is not his initial starting position, which is already unacceptable to people like jim demint and others. >> governor dean, if you looked at this from the republican perspective and you go with what horowitz's presumption they're going to cave on rates at some point and go along with it, would you advise them politically the sooner the better? get this off the doorstep. >> they need to do that. had they not taken such extreme positions mitt romney might have done a lot better. i think the president is in command here. they're not going to beat him on this one. they'll make themselves look bad. i think they do, and if i were them i would do what boehner is talking about. here's the other problem, though. if boehner is not going to get the 60 or 70 tea party people, so he has to get some democrats. i don't think he can get democrats if they do something like try to raise the age of medicare or something like that. eligibility for medicare. that is a no-go zone for any reasonable, respectable democrat. this is not even. even if boehner caves, he can't bring his caucus with
the compromise is not his initial starting position, which is already unacceptable to people like jim demint and others. >> governor dean, if you looked at this from the republican perspective and you go with what horowitz's presumption they're going to cave on rates at some point and go along with it, would you advise them politically the sooner the better? get this off the doorstep. >> they need to do that. had they not taken such extreme positions mitt romney might have done a...
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jim demint, republican senator from south carolina. >> this is a time to negotiate with ourselves. we need to invite the president to work with us. his proposal was so outlandish, i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work with. the president has known about this fiscal cliff for over a year. and many of his decisions caused us to be in this position. >> how much of a problem does boehner have with other republicans potentially? >> it's a big problem. it's always been his problem. it's been a problem for the republican party since they started taking that no tax pledge 30 years ago. what is revenue increase? is closing deductions and loopholes a revenue increase? and if so, do you have to oppose that? i think what we see going on in the republican party right now is a fight between the stalwart, no new tax whatever conservatives and those who believe that they have a responsibility to keep the country from going over the fiscal cliff in the short term and in the long-term. and as jessica was pointing out earlier, the white house has
jim demint, republican senator from south carolina. >> this is a time to negotiate with ourselves. we need to invite the president to work with us. his proposal was so outlandish, i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work with. the president has known about this fiscal cliff for over a year. and many of his decisions caused us to be in this position. >> how much of a problem does boehner have with other republicans potentially?...